Steveill the Weevill ([info]synabetic) wrote,
@ 2007-06-24 01:26:00
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Current music:Remix Wars Strike 3: 16 Volt vs. Hate Dept. - "Dreams of Light (H.D. mix)"
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Late Night Music Post
I'm sitting here, drinking a beer and writing, listening to one of my all time fave bands, 16 Volt.

The new album, FullBlackHabit, isn't bad or anything. It certainly maintains the "newer" 16 Volt sound that Eric Powell* went with for supercoolnothing (an album I love, btw) being more indie/skate-rawk with industrial sensibility and production. However, FullBlackHabit just doesn't have that "oomph!" (pun intended) I've come to expect from this favourite project of mine. I'm sure it'll grow on me, and I'm not shitting you when I say I dug it far more until I popped in some older albums. It's hard to believe, but Wisdom is still fucking AMAZING. Jesus, it seems to get BETTER every year. Not something one can say about most modern music.

*Not the same guy who does The Goon; although 16 Volt Eric is from Portland, OR, and The Goon is published by Dark Horse, which is in near Portland, OR... hmmm.

Anyhoo, I don't think the new 16 Volt album sucks or anything, but I don't think it's Wisdom meets supercoolnothing, as Powell supposedly said. I also think FullBlackHabit is the most radio friendly 16 Volt album created so far. Not that it's a bad thing... It's just not what I expected.

I mean, I compare FBH to Remix Wars 3 here (16 Volt vs. Hate Dept.) and I'm just blown away by how much COOLER this old shit sounds NOW. Then that leads me to think about Hate Dept. and how they used to be so damn good... Now they're just okay. I really thought HD would become the Big Black of the industrial scene. And maybe Seibold was for a split second. Nothing against him, of course, as I've always thought he was a great guy (always got on with him well back in the day). But man, there was a time...

There was a time when industrial music had balls. Stones. Gumption. Whatever you want to call it. It doesn't anymore. Sure, a lot of it is cool and some of it I still like, but most of it lacks... well, balls. It lacks those stones it once had. Shrieking over "techno body music" does not give you stones. Making the same song 10 times on an album is fucking retarded. Some of you musicians should be ashamed that bands like motherfucking MUSE have more nads than many of the industrial acts out there today.

And I love Muse, don't get me wrong; I'm merely using them to illustrate a ranty point.

Don't bring up shit like Skinny Puppy, either. I don't truck with that frequency, kiddies. They're cool and and all that happy horseshit, but they're not who I'm thinking of. Not that I think they're pussies or anything. Just not a part of my point. Okay?

"You fucking stupid piece of shit. Snap out of it."

I feel these lyrics capture my point entirely. You see, I live in the past now. I've become one of those lame-ass motherfuckers I used to hate when I was a "dj". I need a time machine back to the 90s to be musically content again. Okay, with maybe some stuff up to like '02. Or something. I one of the last industrial shows I saw that kicked my ass was goddamned Winterkälte like five years ago. And that was a dude on a drum kit and a guy (Udo!) running in place behind a keyboard doing... something. It was intense, though. Other shows have been fun from time to time, but they weren't intense. Musically speaking, mostly.

(For those not in the know, Winterkälte was like a fucking bomb of tribal beats going off and leaving no survivors. It was awesome. Another excellent project that played that same show was Ah Cama-Sotz. I was wearing their shirt when Drake was born. As you can probably tell, that makes them even cooler.)

All that said, I can't wait for And One to swing by Seattle. But I can say that, as I've listened to them since not long after their inception. I get a pass.

Yes, I'm THAT cool. I can't help it, I was born that way.
What?

Okay, kidding around aside, I wish the industrial music scene would stop being lame and that the music would be goddamn tough and actually pissed off again. Maybe I have a different perspective now, being far removed from the scene I was a part of for so long. Ditch the make-up and the fucking ridiculous fan clubs that girls pose in pictures for wearing silly logos on their panties, start the drugs again if you have to. Drink like assholes again, and not just "rawkstars" who pissed away their 20s on covering Erasure songs and think they're assholes. That won't fly. Being a dick at a club is something I did on a regular basis and I didn't have a fucking "band". What I mean is, write songs that show how pissed off you are, piss people off, and just piss on most things in general. And own up to your actions. Don't be a fucking wuss and hide behind fans when you fuck up real bad like*. Never be ashamed to be pissed off. Call the band Urine 7653. That sounds "rivet", yeah? And drop that term for fuck's sake. It's done now. You may only use that combination of letters when mentioning the Chemlab song Rivethead. Note that you cannot properly convey true ANGER and RAGE by hunkering down behind a console on a stage pretending to mix your "I'm somewhat annoyed" tracks and bobbing your head up and down. Your headphones might get peeved, but that's about it. Only, like, Converter should be able to get away with head-bobby shows. OKAY? Also, stop being goth. Goths, you're cool. The 438 of you who are left in the universe, that is. But when Rogue from The Cruxshadows is more hardcore than most "Terror EBM" projects, there's a serious problem. KMFDM is still making music and touring because NO ONE ELSE CAN REPLACE THEM. Don't you think that's, I dunno, sad? Not for them. You. Aren't they like 50? Along with Puppy, Frontline Assembly, Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb? And they all have their shit together? Must suck for a guy who's in his mid-twenties to be out-matched and out-classed by a fella that could be his father (or enter female pronouns and terms in there if that makes you happy ;P ).

*Example: "ARRGGGH! I'M ANGRY!!... Aw, shit! I've been arrested! OH GAWD!! I'm not angry anymore!! I pinky swear. It's a big mix up. Someone send me money. I think I'll complain in my blog."

Of course, it's all an act and most angry industrial bands are nice folks, but that's not the issue here.

I, uh, don't even think there's an issue. I'm sure someone will read this and take issue, but truth be told... I just forgot what I was talking about. I guess it makes me really, really irritated that Captain America comics are tougher than industrial music (thank you, Ed Brubaker). As a matter of fact, feel free to argue me, you won't change my opinion. Whatever opinion I may have. You may have to tell me what it is. Who are you again? It's like my life is a Phillip K. Dick novel.
LOL

So... Yeah... 16 Volt. Still dig 'em.

I'm also rather impressed with the Idiot Stare album "Welcome to Babylon". Check 'em out.

I'd like to say that there needs to be more bands like Caustic, dammit. I may not like all of Matt's music, but he has stones, man. Serious stones. And I love him for it. I also love my friends who make synth-pop/EBM and are hard as nails compared to the "evil" bands. Also, there needs to be more bands like Andraculoid. Don't worry, Jos, I still like Grendel. ;)


Know what I'd do with my time machine? I'd go back to like '95 or somewhere there 'bouts and fly over to Germany to see Leaether Strip. Then I would weep angry tears of joy.

I would.



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[info]qnonymous
2007-06-24 10:41 am UTC (link)
hate to break it to you but And One dropped all their west coast dates for this tour

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 10:42 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I know about that. But they'll should be coming around these parts (Seattle, Van or both) at some point in the future, and that's what I mean. :)

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[info]ryan_speck
2007-06-24 11:57 am UTC (link)
Actually, I think Hate Dept. got better over time.

"Omnipresent" gets points for the wealth of songs, but "Ditch" is still one of my favorite albums of the past decade and is some of Seibold's best shit.

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I won't argue that HD is still good. But Meat Your Maker has some serious oomph to it. Beat Me Up is an all time classic to me. I don't think that's variation of HD has been touched since maybe the track Hit Back.

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[info]ryan_speck
2007-06-24 09:27 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but that shit gets kind of old when it's all you do.

I think I grew out of that album when I was 20.

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-25 02:50 am UTC (link)
Yeah, but like I mentioned to you earlier during one of our sex-a-thons, I'd like to see someone else step up and do their own Meat Your Maker... if that makes sense.

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[info]ryan_speck
2007-06-25 03:54 am UTC (link)
It'd be nice.

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[info]ctanworldkiller
2007-06-24 02:55 pm UTC (link)
Death-Robot is the true future of brutal electronic music, it has balls. Big rusted heavy immortal liquid metal balls with evil green energy glowing inside them.

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:16 pm UTC (link)
I like the direction this whole Death-Robot thing is going. Just make sure that if there's live shows that you go CRAZY. Attitude is like 50% of music, dontca know. :D

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[info]ctanworldkiller
2007-06-24 10:43 pm UTC (link)
id only do live-shows if I could have the full-size necron costume. Then, id go insane.. utterly...insane...in a live-artist against the audience kind of way.

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-25 02:52 am UTC (link)
So, kinda like a Mechano-GGAlien-Deth808?

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[info]ctanworldkiller
2007-06-26 01:15 am UTC (link)
nah..more like : lets make this concert into a Dead-world ;)

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-26 01:19 am UTC (link)
Hahaha! Like Metalocalypse Death Robot, eh? :P

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[info]ctanworldkiller
2007-06-26 01:22 am UTC (link)
no idea, just want lots of green light, barrels full of petrol to pour over audience and set fire too and a nice necron-immortal costume to scream my logical cult-like rhetoric at and lots of green light. I like green light.


what ?

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-26 01:30 am UTC (link)
I can see this kind of thing replacing Black Metal shows.

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[info]ctanworldkiller
2007-06-26 01:32 am UTC (link)
haha that would be good, I hate black metal.

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-26 01:35 am UTC (link)
I have days where I like Back Metal... or hate it. It usually goes something like this.

"Wow, they look cool-- JESUSFUCKINGCHRIST! Is that MUSIC? OH, THE HUMANITY make it stop!"

and

"Dear lord, look at those clownshoes..... Hey! They sound pretty good! I like them!! But I can tell no one."

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[info]ctanworldkiller
2007-06-26 01:55 am UTC (link)
lolz, well lets hope death-robot is its superior replacement then ;)

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[info]connexion
2007-06-24 04:44 pm UTC (link)
May I sugest you check out http://www.muckrackers.org/ and anything from the Audiotrauma (www.audiotrauma.org) crews (in particular Chrysallide)? ;-)

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm doing that right now! I'll let ya know what I think. :)

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Okay, Muckrackers sounds like Atari Teenage Riot meets Sielwolf if they popped up today. Seeing as I dig both those acts (especially Sielwolf!!!!!!), I dig these guys. Very cool stuff.

I'll be checking out Audiotrauma a little later.

Thanks, man!

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[info]connexion
2007-06-24 09:41 pm UTC (link)
They also rock onstage with 4-5 guys in miners' jumpsuits & skimasks + firebreathing. Saw them 2 years ago at Noxious Arts in France and am hoping to catch them again in August for the Schlagstrom! 2-day party in Berlin.

Also occurred to me that you might like to check out Bahntier, Detune-X and Sandblasting (from the Italian label Rustblade - www.rustblade.com).

In North America I'd probably sugest It-clings 'spoken wordcore' colaboration with Pneumatic Detach (there's a review of it on C.B. and I am running a give-away of 3 copies of the album). Prometheus Burning on Hive Records was a bit of an abrasive pleasant surprise last year as well.

Tyler from Battery Cage sent me a copy of their latest album for review a couple of weeks ago. While it is rocking and more mainstream-ish (and an excessive 19 tracks...) it still has a genuine feel to it and like I pointed out at the time "I'd rather listen to emo-industrial that feels genuine than preset pap about cyborg wars". ;-)

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-26 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I am in the process of checking out Sandblasting. I'll see how they turn out :)

Thanks for the tips. Oh, and I've been familiar with Battery Cage for years. I've always dug 'em... Matter o' fact, Ecstasy was playing only a few minutes ago. I'll have to get the new album.

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[info]dragon_smoke
2007-06-24 06:27 pm UTC (link)
Many of my friends were extremely upset when And One dropped out of the VNV tour and did not appear here in Denver last week. Apparently, this means I am lame, because I have yet to hear their music, and instead went to Johnette Napolitano the night before. :-)

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[info]djsin
2007-06-24 07:59 pm UTC (link)
you know their music, it's the damm kindertraum song!

Bad deejays!

anyways nice seeing you hear!

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:12 pm UTC (link)
I, um... I like Kindertraum.


Now I'm singing it.


Because I'm hardcore.

Seriously, though, I love that song (and the whole album it's on...).

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:23 pm UTC (link)
Oh! And Kindertraum is Melotron... I love them, too.


That Cruxshadows comment can be replaced with Andy from Melotron.

(Great guys, great show, more "hardcore" than most terror ebm bands... period)

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[info]djsin
2007-06-25 02:44 pm UTC (link)
yep your right.....What was I thinking!!

Men In Uniform is the song by And One that I was thinking about. Both songs are notoriously OVER played here in denver...Melotron is especially one of my favorite bands. I like to play Halt Mich Pest..I am a rare deejay to play different songs from club hit bands like Melotron. Kindertraum, Blue Lights and Sparrows and Nightingales are all good songs but seriously the bands have other good songs as well!

I think Industrial had it's heyday back in the 90's. Anything that was industrial in the 90's was good. Something is missing now, your right. Oh and BTW I am playing the Muse on my show tomorrow!

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-26 01:33 am UTC (link)
Yay, Muse!


Yeah, I think some folks might interpret me saying that industrial and the people who do it suck, but I don't. The state of industrial is just... different. I'm sure there will be a 90's-like heyday again... Or maybe not.

Of course, my perspective is way different being older and more burned out.
LOL

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-24 09:15 pm UTC (link)
And One rules. Probably one of my all time faves. Mainly because they still have that "industrial attitude", full of head-on snark and cynicism. But they're funny, too. Gotta love 'em for that. Many hate And One, but I think that's just because industrial folks hate anything that more than 4 people enjoy.

But that's another rant for another time. ;)

I'd say check out their album "Aggressor" for a good And One primer. :)

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[info]sablebadger
2007-06-25 12:31 am UTC (link)
You rock.

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[info]synabetic
2007-06-26 01:19 am UTC (link)
Thank you, sir.

You do, as well.

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[info]andraculoid
2007-06-26 05:44 pm UTC (link)
i'm an angry little bee so i will keep droppin the angry tunes haha.

the new cd especially will be angry since i listen to so much death metal and hardcore techno these days.

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